Synopsis:
Where do you see yourself in five years?
Dannie Cohan is a twenty-eight-year-old Type-A personality. She graduated second in her law school class and was a law clerk for the Southern District of New York. But what she always wanted to be was a corporate lawyer. When she’s asked that question during the interview for the dream job she has spent her life preparing for, she provides her meticulously-crafted answer, nailing it.
That evening, her boyfriend, David, an investment banker, proposes and she accepts.
That night, Dannie drifts off to sleep secure in the knowledge that she is right on track to achieve her five-year plan.
But she wakes up in a different apartment, with a different ring on her finger, beside a very different man. The television news is on in the background, and the date scrolling across the screen is the same night — December 15 — 2025. Five years in the future.
After an intense, shocking hour, Dannie wakes again, at the brink of midnight, back in 2020.
Dannie can’t shake what happened. It felt like much more than a dream, but she isn’t the kind of person who believes in visions. To her, that sort of nonsense is only charming coming from free-spirited types like her lifelong best friend, Bella. Determined to ignore and move on from the odd experience, Dannie files it away in the back of her mind.
But four-and-a-half years later, Dannie by chance meets the very same man who appeared in her bizarre, long-ago vision.
Review:
Allen Saunders was an American writer, journalist, and cartoonist who is credited with observing that “life is what happens to us while we are making other plans” in 1957. In her sixth novel, In Five Years, author and television writer Rebecca Serle demonstrates just how true that statement is.
At the age of twenty-eight, Dannie Cohan’s life is right on track. She lives in Manhattan with her investment banker boyfriend, David. As the story opens, not only does she land her dream job as a corporate attorney with a high-powered, prestigious law firm, but David proposes right on schedule. All of her hard work and planning is paying off.
Dannie dozes off on the couch and has a startling, upsetting experience. She awakens in a bed in a loft apartment she doesn’t recognize with furnishings she’s never seen before. She’s with a man she’s never met, who proceeds to cook her pasta while she finds his wallet and looks at his identification. His name is Arron Gregory and she’s wearing an engagement ring — but not the one David just gave her. In her first-person narrative, she notes that the ring is “not anything I’d ever pick out.” The television is on and she is stunned when she looks at the screen and sees the date: December 15, 2025. A full five years later than when she fell asleep in her own apartment with David. And when Aaron kisses her . . . “I’m melting. I’ve never felt anything like this. Not with David, not with Ben, the only other guy I dated seriously, . . . This is something else entirely. He kisses and touches like he’s inside my brain. I mean, I’m in the future, maybe he is.”
When Dannie wakes up again an hour later — with a jolt — she’s right back on the couch and David is standing over her holding a bowl of popcorn, suggesting that they call their parents to deliver the good news of their engagement.
Was it a fantasy? A vision of some sort? A premonition? Dannie concludes, “It must have been a dream, but it . . . how could it be? . . . I feel the need to touch my body, to confirm my physical reality. I put my hands on each elbow and hold my arms to my chest.” When David moves close to her, it feels like an “intrusion.”
Love doesn’t require a future.
Because she can’t stop thinking about that strange occurrence, Dannie goes to therapy, thinking that she’s going crazy. She doesn’t feel comfortable talking with anyone about it — not even Bella. Her therapist, Dr. Christine, opines that it may have been a premonition. “A psychosomatic trip. . . . Sometimes unexplainable things happen.” Feeling better after talking with Dr. Christine, Dannie convinces herself that her experience was, in fact, “crazy.” And that by discussing it with Dr. Christine, she has left it behind her, somehow making it Dr. Christine’s problem rather than her own. She feels freed.
So Dannie’s life continues on the trajectory she has outlined for herself. After a year on her new job, she is promoted to senior associate, David goes to work for a hedge fund, and they buy an apartment in Gramercy. And then four and a half years slip by. “Everything goes according to plan. Everything. Except that David and I don’t get married. We never set a date. We say we’re busy, which we are.” They plan to marry when they decide to have children, and talk about traveling first. They agree to set a date “when the time is right — and it never is.” Because, Dannie confesses, the truth is that “every time we get close, I think about that night, that hour, that dream, that man. And the memory of it stops me before I’ve started.” One thing she never planned was a five-year engagement.
Bella has been Dannie’s lifelong best friend since they were seven years old and, as with so many friendships, they are total opposites. Bella is vivacious, spontaneous — a “blue-eyed, blond-haired shiksa goddess” — while Dannie is a “Nice Jewish Girl from the The Main Line of Philadelphia.” Bella’s wealthy but frequently absent parents spoiled her with material things, but not their time or attention. So she spent most of her time at Bella’s house while they were growing up. She’s a “free love” kind of young woman — giving and receiving it freely, hiding the fragility and vulnerability that lurk just below the surface. Bella always seems to be in love . . . and her relationships with men never last. Dannie suspects that Bella would like her to be with someone other than David, but Dannie insists that he is the right man for her because he fits perfectly into her life plan.
Dannie soon finds out that life never goes exactly according to plan. She is stunned when she meets the new man in Bella’s life — Aaron. But his name is actually Greg. And Dannie resolves that whatever she envisioned or fantasized years ago must never become reality, even though it doesn’t seem like there is any possibility it will. Happily, Bella seems to have at last found the relationship she has been looking for . . . with Greg.
Serle relates that she enjoys exploring best friendships among women who grow up together “and then your paths diverge” and “lives that have been so parallel look nothing alike. How you navigate that divide and how you keep prioritizing each other are very interesting questions.” In Serle’s tale, Bella receives devastating news that forces Dannie to embark on an unexpected journey with her dear friend. As she remains at Bella’s side, she is forced to confront the truth: she simply cannot control every aspect of her life circumstances and experiences, or what happens to her friends and family, especially Bella, the person she holds most dear. It is a humbling and shattering realization. Dannie’s workaholic life is disrupted in ways she neither welcomes nor embraces, and she loses her equilibrium. She is forced to find a way to balance competing demands and, in the process, she re-evaluates the choices she has made, really examining, for the first time, her feelings and how her family history has shaped her personality, preferences, and choices. As little aspects of the dream or fantasy she experienced years ago pop up from time to time, bringing her back to that night, she is reminded her that she cannot let it come to fruition. She would never knowingly or deliberately hurt Bella. But those are also occurrences over which she finds she has no control.
“I saw what was coming, but I did not see what it would mean.” ~~ Dannie
Serle credibly and sympathetically portrays a woman who arrives at an unplanned crossroads in her life. She is an attorney, trained to evaluate facts, evidence, and draw conclusions about causality and responsibility. At the outset of the story, Dannie does not make decisions or choices based on her feelings. She focuses on goals and relies on logic. And, as Dr. Christine points out, she does not understand and is frightened by what happens to her and the life events she must navigate. In the hands of a less-skilled writer, Dannie could be a wholly unlikeable character: ambitious, controlling, self-involved, and impervious to her own feelings and the emotions of those closest to her. But she is extremely empathetic and likeable because Serle deftly reveals her inner battle to understand what is happening to her and acknowledge her own and others’ needs. Moreover, Dannie is surrounded by an equally intriguing and relatable cast of supporting characters, including the luminescent Bella, who teaches Dannie about having the courage to take risks and love completely, and David, who becomes increasingly frustrated and anguished as he gradually comes to understand what is really happening between him and Dannie. Serle propels the story forward at a steady pace that keeps readers turning the pages to see what will ultimately happen to each of them. Notably, Serle provides a hugely satisfying, but surprising conclusion to the story that further elevates it within its genre.
Serle says, “I write to make people feel, to make myself feel and sort out how I feel.” In Five Years succeeds because that’s exactly what Serle accomplishes: she makes her readers feel what Dannie is experiencing, providing a tender, engaging, and memorable story with a clever twist. At its core, In Five Years is an exploration of the steadfast nature of true friendship, the degree to which human beings can control their circumstances and destinies, and the reckoning that is required when all of one’s best-laid plans are interrupted by the unpredictable nature of life itself. Serle has lovingly crafted a poignant story about the peace and freedom that result from letting go of the need to control one’s life and relishing the surprises — good and bad — that life throws in our paths . . . while we are making plans.
Excerpt from In Five Years
Chapter One
Twenty-five. That’s the number I count to every morning before I even open my eyes. It’s a meditative calming technique that helps your brain with memory, focus, and attention, but the real reason I do it is because that’s how long it takes my boyfriend, David, to get out of bed next to me and flip the coffee maker on, and for me to smell the beans.
Thirty-six. That’s how many minutes it takes me to brush my teeth, shower, and put on face toner, serum, cream, makeup, and a suit for work. If I wash my hair, it’s forty-three.
Eighteen. That’s the walk to work in minutes from our Murray Hill apartment to East Forty-Seventh Street, where the law offices of Sutter, Boyt and Barn are located.
Twenty-four. That’s how many months I believe you should be dating someone before you move in with them.
Twenty-eight. The right age to get engaged.
Thirty. The right age to get married.
My name is Dannie Kohan. And I believe in living by numbers.
“Happy Interview Day,” David says when I walk into the kitchen. Today. December 15. I’m wearing a bathrobe, hair spun up into a towel. He’s still in his pajamas, and his brown hair has a significant amount of salt and pepper for someone who has not yet crossed thirty, but I like it. It makes him look dignified, particularly when he wears glasses, which he often does.
“Thank you,” I say. I wrap my arms around him, kiss his neck and then his lips. I’ve already brushed my teeth, but David never has morning breath. Ever. When we first started dating, I thought he was getting up out of bed before me to swoosh some toothpaste in there, but when we moved in together, I realized it’s just his natural state. He wakes up that way. The same cannot be said of me.
“Coffee is ready.”
He squints at me, and my heart tugs at the look on his face, the way it scrunches all up when he’s trying to pay attention but doesn’t have his contacts in yet.
He takes a mug down and then pours. I go to the refrigerator, and when he hands me the cup, I add a dollop of creamer. Coffee mate, hazelnut. David thinks it’s sacrilegious but he buys it, to indulge me. This is the kind of man he is. Judgmental, and generous.
I take the coffee cup and go sit in our kitchen nook that overlooks Third Avenue. Murray Hill isn’t the most glamorous neighborhood in New York, and it gets a bad rap (every Jewish fraternity and sorority kid in the tristate area moves here after graduation. The average street style is a Penn sweatshirt), but there’s nowhere else in the city where we’d be able to afford a two-bedroom with a full kitchen in a doorman building, and between the two of us, we make more money than a pair of twenty-eight-year-olds has any right to.
David works in finance as an investment banker at Tishman Speyer, a real estate conglomerate. I’m a corporate lawyer. And today, I have an interview at the top law firm in the city. Wachtell. The mecca. The pinnacle. The mythological headquarters that sits in a black-and-gray fortress on West Fifty-Second Street. The top lawyers in the country all work there. The client list is unfathomable; they represent everyone: Boeing. ING. AT&T. All of the biggest corporate mergers, the deals that determine the vicissitudes of our global markets, happen within their walls.
I’ve wanted to work at Wachtell since I was ten years old and my father used to take me into the city for lunch at Serendipity and a matinee. We’d pass all the big buildings in Times Square, and then I’d insist we walk to 51 West Fifty-Second Street so I could gaze up at the CBS building, where Wachtell has historically had its offices since 1965.
“You’re going to kill it today, babe,” David says. He stretches his arms overhead, revealing a slice of stomach. David is tall and lanky. All of his T-shirts are too small when he stretches, which I welcome. “You ready?”
“Of course.”
When this interview first came up, I thought it was a joke. A headhunter calling me from Wachtell, yeah right. Bella, my best friend—and the proverbial surprise-obsessed flighty blonde—must have paid someone off. But no, it was for real. Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz wanted to interview me. Today, December 15. I marked the date in my planner in Sharpie. Nothing was going to erase this.
“Don’t forget we’re going to dinner to celebrate tonight,” David says.
“I won’t know if I got the job today,” I tell him. “That’s not how interviews work.”
“Really? Explain it to me, then.” He’s flirting with me. David is a great flirt. You wouldn’t think it, he’s so buttoned-up most of the time, but he has a great, witty mind. It’s one of the things I love most about him. It was one of the things that first attracted me to him.
I raise my eyebrows at him and he downshifts. “Of course you’ll get the job. It’s in your plan.”
“I appreciate your confidence.”
I don’t push him, because I know what tonight is. David is terrible with secrets, and an even worse liar. Tonight, on this, the second month of my twenty-eighth year, David Andrew Rosen is going to propose to me.
“Two Raisin Bran scoops, half a banana?” he asks. He’s holding out a bowl to me.
“Big days are bagel days,” I say. “Whitefish. You know that.”
Before we find out about a big case, I always stop at Sarge’s on Third Avenue. Their whitefish salad rivals Katz’s downtown, and the wait, even with a line, is never more than four and a half minutes. I revel in their efficiency.
“Make sure you bring gum,” David says, sliding in next to me. I bat my eyes and take a sip of coffee. It goes down sweet and warm.
“You’re here late,” I tell him. I’ve just realized. He should have been gone hours ago. He works market hours. It occurs to me he might not be going to the office at all today. Maybe he still has to pick up the ring.
“I thought I’d see you off.” He flips his watch over. It’s an Apple. I got it for him for our two-year anniversary, four months ago. “But I should jet. I was going to work out.”
David never works out. He has a monthly membership to Equinox I think he’s used maybe twice in two and a half years. He’s naturally lean, and runs sometimes on the weekends. The wasted expense is a point of contention between us, so I don’t bring it up this morning. I don’t want anything to get in the way of today, and certainly not this early.
“Sure,” I say. “I’m gonna get ready.”
“But you have time.” David pulls me toward him and threads a hand into the collar of my robe. I let it linger for one, two, three, four…
“I thought you were late. And I can’t lose focus.”
He nods. Kisses me. He gets it. “In that case, we’re doubling up tonight,” he says.
“Don’t tease me.” I pinch his biceps.
My cell phone is ringing where it sits plugged in on my nightstand in the bedroom, and I follow the noise. The screen fills with a photo of a blue-eyed, blond-haired shiksa goddess sticking her tongue sideways at the camera. Bella. I’m surprised. My best friend is only awake before noon if she’s been up all night.
“Good morning,” I tell her. “Where are you? Not New York.”
She yawns. I imagine her stretching on some seaside terrace, a silk kimono pooling around her.
“Not New York. Paris,” she says.
Well that explains her ability to speak at this hour. “I thought you were leaving this evening?” I have her flight on my phone: UA 57. Leaves Newark at 6:40 p.m.
“I went early,” she says. “Dad wanted to do dinner tonight. Just to bitch about Mom, clearly.” She pauses, and I hear her sneeze. “What are you doing today?”
Does she know about tonight? David would have told her, I think, but she’s also bad at keeping secrets—especially from me.
“Big day for work and then we’re going to dinner.”
“Right. Dinner,” she says. She definitely knows.
I put the phone on speaker and shake out my hair. It will take me seven minutes to blow it dry. I check the clock: 8:57 a.m. Plenty of time. The interview isn’t until eleven.
“I almost tried you three hours ago.”
“Well, that would have been early.”
“But you’d still pick up,” she says. “Lunatic.”
Bella knows I leave my phone on all night.
Bella and I have been best friends since we were seven years old. Me, Nice Jewish Girl from the Main Line of Philadelphia. Her, French-Italian Princess whose parents threw her a thirteenth birthday party big enough to stop any bat mitzvah in its tracks. Bella is spoiled, mercurial, and more than a little bit magical. It’s not just me. Everywhere she goes people fall at her feet. She is the easiest to love, and gives love freely. But she’s fragile, too. A membrane of skin stretches so thinly over her emotions it’s always threatening to burst.
Her parents’ bank account is large and easily accessible, but their time and attention are not. Growing up, she practically lived at my house. It was always the two of us.
“Bells, I gotta go. I have that interview today.”
“That’s right! Watchman!”
“Wachtell.”
“What are you going to wear?”
“Probably a black suit. I always wear a black suit.” I’m already mentally thumbing through my closet, even though I’ve had the suit chosen since they called me.
“How thrilling,” she deadpans, and I imagine her scrunching up her small pin nose like she’s just smelled something unsavory.
“When are you back?” I ask.
“Probably Tuesday,” she says. “But I don’t know. Renaldo might meet me, in which case we’d go to the Riviera for a few days. You wouldn’t think it, but it’s great this time of year. No one is around. You have the whole place to yourself.”
Renaldo. I haven’t heard his name in a beat. I think he was before Francesco, the pianist, and after Marcus, the filmmaker. Bella is always in love, always. But her romances, while intense and dramatic, never last for more than a few months. She rarely, if ever, calls someone her boyfriend. I think the last one might have been when we were in college. And what of Jacques?
“Have fun,” I say. “Text me when you land and send me pictures, especially of Renaldo, for my files, you know.”
“Yes, Mom.”
“Love you,” I say.
“Love you more.”
I blow-dry my hair and keep it down, running a flat iron over the hairline and the ends so it doesn’t frizz up. I put on small pearl stud earrings my parents gave me for my college graduation, and my favorite Movado watch David bought me for Hanukkah last year. My chosen black suit, fresh from the dry cleaners, hangs on the back of my closet door. When I put it on, I add a red-and-white ruffled shirt underneath, in Bella’s honor. A little spark of detail, or life, as she would say.
I come back into the kitchen and give a little spin. David’s made little to no progress on getting dressed or leaving. He’s definitely taking the day off. “What do we think?” I ask him.
“You’re hired,” he says. He puts a hand on my hip and gives me a light kiss on the cheek.
I smile at him. “That’s the plan,” I say.
Sarge’s is predictably empty at 10 a.m.—it’s a morning-commute place—so it only takes two minutes and forty seconds for me to get my whitefish bagel. I eat it walking. Sometimes I stand at the counter table at the window. There are no stools, but there’s usually room to stash my bag.
The city is all dressed up for the holidays. The streetlamps lit, the windows frosted. It’s thirty-one degrees out, practically balmy by New York winter standards. And it hasn’t snowed yet, which makes walking in heels a breeze. So far, so good.
I arrive at Wachtell’s headquarters at 10:45 a.m. My stomach starts working against me, and I toss the rest of the bagel. This is it. The thing I’ve worked the last six years for. Well, really, the thing I’ve worked the last eighteen years for. Every SAT prep test, every history class, every hour studying for the LSAT. The countless 2 a.m. nights. Every time I’ve been chewed out by a partner for something I didn’t do, every time I’ve been chewed out by a partner for something I did do, every single piece of effort has been leading me to, and preparing me for, this one moment.
I pop a piece of gum. I take a deep breath, and enter the building.
Fifty-one West Fifty-Second Street is giant, but I know exactly what door I need to enter, and what security desk I need to check in at (the entrance on Fifty-Second, the desk right in front). I’ve rehearsed this chain of events so many times in my head, like a ballet. First the door, then the pivot, then a sashay to the left and a quick succession of steps. One two three, one two three…
The elevator doors open to the thirty-third floor, and I suck in my breath. I can feel the energy, like candy to the vein, as I look around at the people moving in and out of glass-doored conference rooms like extras on the show Suits, hired for today—for me, for my viewing pleasure alone. The place is in full bloom. I get the feeling that you could walk in here at any hour, any day of the week, and this is what you would see. Midnight on Saturday, Sunday at 8 a.m. It’s a world out of time, functioning on its own schedule.
This is what I want. This is what I’ve always wanted. To be somewhere that stops at nothing. To be surrounded by the pace and rhythm of greatness.
“Ms. Kohan?” A young woman greets me where I stand. She wears a Banana Republic sheath dress, no blazer. She’s a receptionist. I know, because all lawyers are required to wear suits at Wachtell. “Right this way.”
“Thank you so much.”
She leads me around the bullpen. I spot the corners, the offices on full display. Glass and wood and chrome. The thump thump thump of money. She leads me into a conference room with a long mahogany table. On it sits a glass tumbler of water and three glasses. I take in this subtle and revealing piece of information. There are going to be two partners in here for the interview, not one. It’s good, of course, it’s fine. I know my stuff forward and backward. I could practically draw a floor plan of their offices for them. I’ve got this.
Two minutes stretch to five minutes stretch to ten. The receptionist is long gone. I’m contemplating pouring myself a glass of water when the door opens and in walks Miles Aldridge. First in his class at Harvard. Yale Law Journal. And a senior partner at Wachtell. He’s a legend, and now he’s in the same room as me. I inhale.
“Ms. Kohan,” he says. “So glad you could make this date work.”
“Naturally, Mr. Aldridge,” I say. “It’s a pleasure to meet you.”
He raises his eyebrows at me. He’s impressed I know his name sight unseen. Three points.
“Shall we?” He gestures for me to sit, and I do. He pours us each a glass of water. The other one sits there, untouched. “So,” he says. “Let’s begin. Tell me a little bit about yourself.”
I work through the answers I’ve practiced, honed, and sculpted over the last few days. From Philadelphia. My father owned a lighting business, and when I was not even ten years old, I helped him with contracts in the back office. In order to sort and file to my heart’s content, I had to read into them a bit, and I fell in love with the organization, the way language—the pure truth in the words—was nonnegotiable. It was like poetry, but poetry with outcome, poetry with concrete meaning—with actionable power. I knew it was what I wanted to do. I went to Columbia Law and graduated second in my class. I clerked for the Southern District of New York before accepting the reality of what I’d always known, which is that I wanted to be a corporate lawyer. I wanted to practice a kind of law that is high stakes, dynamic, incredibly competitive, and yes, offers me the opportunity to make a lot of money.
Why?
Because it’s what I was born to do, what I have trained for, and what has led me here today, to the place I always knew I’d be. The golden gates. Their headquarters.
We go through my resume, point by point. Aldridge is surprisingly thorough, which is to my benefit, as it gives me more time to express my accomplishments. He asks me why I think I’d be a good fit, what kind of work culture I gravitate toward. I tell him that when I stepped off the elevator and saw all the endless movement, all the frenzied bustle, I felt as if I were home. It’s not hyperbole, he can tell. He chuckles.
“It’s aggressive,” he says. “And endless, as you say. Many spin out.”
I cross my hands on the table. “I can assure you,” I tell him. “That won’t be a problem here.”
And then he asks me the proverbial question. The one you always prepare for because they always ask:
Where do you see yourself in five years?
I inhale, and then give him my airtight answer. Not just because I’ve practiced, which I have. But because it’s true. I know. I always have.
I’ll be working here, at Wachtell, as a senior associate. I’ll be the most requested in my year on M&A cases. I’m incredibly thorough and incredibly efficient; I’m like an X-ACTO knife. I’ll be up for junior partner.
And outside of work?
I’ll be married to David. We’ll be living in Gramercy Park, on the park. We’ll have a kitchen we love and enough table space for two computers. We’ll go to the Hamptons every summer; the Berkshires, occasionally, on weekends. When I’m not in the office, of course.
Aldridge is satisfied. I’ve clinched it, I can tell. We shake hands, and the receptionist is back, ushering me through the offices and to the elevators that deliver me once again to the land of the mortals. The third glass was just to throw me off. Good shot.
After the interview I go downtown, to Reformation, one of my favorite clothing stores in SoHo. I took the day off from work and it’s only lunchtime. Now that the interview is over, I can turn my attention to tonight, to what is coming.
When David told me he had made a reservation at the Rainbow Room, I immediately knew what it meant. We had talked about getting engaged. I knew it would be this year, but I had thought it would have happened this past summer. The holidays are crazy, and the winter is David’s busy time at work. But he knows how much I love the city in lights, so it’s happening tonight.
“Welcome to Reformation,” the salesgirl says. She’s wearing black wide-legged pants and a tight white turtleneck. “What can I help you with?”
“I’m getting engaged tonight,” I say. “And I need something to wear.”
She looks confused for half a second, and then her face brightens. “How exciting!” she says. “Let’s look around. What are you thinking?”
I take barrels into the dressing room. Skirts and low-backed dresses and a pair of red crepe pants with a matching loose camisole. I put the red outfit on first, and when I do, it’s perfect. Dramatic but still classy. Serious but with a little edge.
I look at myself in the mirror. I hold out my hand.
Today, I think. Tonight.
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This sounds really interesting.